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Post by possum on Apr 4, 2019 19:41:01 GMT
To be honest I have no experience whatsoever of using ss mesh. I would love to hear the opinions of experienced users of ss mesh on the following video. I have to admit I found it quite complicated and and a hell of a lot of work which made me wonder would the reward be worth the effort ?
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Post by taff on Apr 4, 2019 19:54:05 GMT
Just realised that i had forgotten the Kraken.... sorry mate will try and get it done asap...
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Post by pulsevape on Apr 5, 2019 0:11:37 GMT
There are a few tank I think it would work better in like the tiafun....I wouldn't think the KFL is optimal for mesh...I don't like the sharp bends in the legs to get them to sit in the juice wells I think it may impede the flow of juice, but give it a shot...one piece of advice I'd offer is to...cut the mesh on the diagonal it will make the wick alot more pliable. and really do a good job oxidizing the wick especially where the legs touch metal....when the KFL first came out there was a group of us over at ECF who used to make a porous ceramic wick for the KFL.worked pretty good....this is a picture of it. Coil builds and wicking for flavor chasing!
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Post by taff on Apr 5, 2019 0:33:25 GMT
Interesting that mate....not seen it before..some clever folk about eh?
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Post by pulsevape on Apr 5, 2019 0:54:15 GMT
Interesting that mate....not seen it before..some clever folk about eh? without doubt porous ceramic gives the best flavor.
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Post by pulsevape on Apr 5, 2019 1:08:38 GMT
Just realised that i had forgotten the Kraken.... sorry mate will try and get it done asap... you've been threatening that for awhile now....get busy.
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Post by possum on Apr 5, 2019 20:00:22 GMT
pulsevape I can't remember ever seeing porous ceramic material for sale for vapers. what way is it sold, pray tell us more I looked at the pic you linked but can't make out if it comes that shape or what?
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Post by Cyborg on Apr 5, 2019 21:17:23 GMT
If I still have some mesh I will have to give it another go, can’t remember the last time but it was in a genesis.
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Post by pulsevape on Apr 6, 2019 1:06:38 GMT
pulsevape I can't remember ever seeing porous ceramic material for sale for vapers. what way is it sold, pray tell us more I looked at the pic you linked but can't make out if it comes that shape or what? There was a commercially available porous ceramic wick for gennys called the fc-2000...shortly before they came out a group of us started experimenting with making wicks out of aquarium filtering stones made out of AO (Aluminum Oxide)..later we started making wicks out of blocks of "sintered" AO ....sintering being the process in which the grains(like grains of sand) of AO are bonded together by heating them to near melting point, and the grains melting together to create a bond.we used blocks of sintered AO that were used for sharpening steel...finding sintered blocks of AO was very difficult.we then had to use diamond tipped tools to mill the wicks because AO is very hard.Somewhere in the library of Todds videos is a video of some of the wicks the guys on ECF made and sent to Todd to try....it was a bit of a fiasco,because AO made that thin is hellishly fragile...I believe you may still be able to find the fc-2000 for sale....I'm not sure you can buy them retail I see them on chinese sites.By the time we stopped we were making wicks better than the commerically available wicks. Oh and the wick you saw in the KFL was made by hand from a block of AO..we called them monkey bar wicks. they were actually esier to make than straight rods, because they weren't as fragile' or long.
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Post by taff on Apr 6, 2019 1:26:43 GMT
Just realised that i had forgotten the Kraken.... sorry mate will try and get it done asap... you've been threatening that for awhile now....get busy. I wish i wasn't so bloody busy mate...been a hectic last month or so... bloody knackered!! and thanks for posting those old videos , will take a look at them tomorrow...been thinking of buying something that should work well with ceramic wicks...
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Post by pulsevape on Apr 6, 2019 2:05:08 GMT
you've been threatening that for awhile now....get busy. I wish i wasn't so bloody busy mate...been a hectic last month or so... bloody knackered!! and thanks for posting those old videos , will take a look at them tomorrow...been thinking of buying something that should work well with ceramic wicks... ah man stick to ss mesh, ceramics is one helluva a learning curve on them...they are fragile,expensive, and time consuming.and I really don't think there is a viable way to clean them.I really think they have a place in vaping, but the atty designs just aren't there for them, I think you'd have to design an atty around using a ceramic wick and then you'd need a cheap avialable source for wicks..I think when I used to buy the fc-2000 they were going for around 3 to 4 dollars a pop and they were the only game in town.if I had a boatload of money and time it would an idea to develop.I went back to mesh, because mesh is cheap easy to work with and, well I won't say easy to come by, but at least possible to come by. it doesn't deliver flavor as well as ceramic, but better than cotton.
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Post by possum on Apr 6, 2019 2:52:26 GMT
Thanks for sharing that pulsevape I do appreciate learning about ceramic and it was a while ago so I did miss the knowledge of it's usage but like ss mesh it does seem to be an art in itself to achieve great results. I always love a challenge especially if it could improve the vape quality,taste and flavor of a vape but I have a feeling that the lazy bone in me will leave me being satisfied with the best form of cotton P,S, the first time I heard of a ceramic wick material in general and read it could be dry burned to clean and nearly never needed to be changed and would be brilliant in stock coil heads I was looking forward to that day but it never really happened I hope some day it will.
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Post by phtumshk on Apr 6, 2019 3:20:47 GMT
This was how I used to put mesh in my Kfuns. rested the mesh in a bed of juice soaked cotton. The LPG had ceramic wicks a standard but they were very brittle. I gave up with mine in the end.
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Post by pulsevape on Apr 6, 2019 6:20:09 GMT
Thanks for sharing that pulsevape I do appreciate learning about ceramic and it was a while ago so I did miss the knowledge of it's usage but like ss mesh it does seem to be an art in itself to achieve great results. I always love a challenge especially if it could improve the vape quality,taste and flavor of a vape but I have a feeling that the lazy bone in me will leave me being satisfied with the best form of cotton P,S, the first time I heard of a ceramic wick material in general and read it could be dry burned to clean and nearly never needed to be changed and would be brilliant in stock coil heads I was looking forward to that day but it never really happened I hope some day it will. dry burning sintered AO isn't the fairy wand they like to think it is..the secret to sintering AO is that it is heated up to thousands of degree,BUT then it is controled cooled...it is slowly cooled down, we can't really do that we dry burn and our cool down is not slow, the result is the wick starts forming cracks and quickly breaks.
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