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Post by taff on Apr 14, 2017 14:24:49 GMT
I am sure i read somewhere that tight coils provide more flavor, but a lot of people now are using spaced coils all the time..
I usually make closely wrapped coils, and am used to them when using a cotton wick, but coils for a mesh wick are a whole lot better spaced out..
So what are the advantages or pitfalls to spaced coils?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2017 15:27:41 GMT
50/50 whichever suits You best - am bestest coil if you paws for a bit,, and look historically all the evods/ce2 etc we almost all started with, were spaced coils (wound on silica) rebuildables were "new" and started with spaced coils wound on silica, Then the "micro" or "contact coil" was thought up and Everyone and there donkey jumped on that band wagon, Next was Ni200 , in temp control / limiting mode , where contact coils just do not work so spaced coils made a comeback seen lots of "theorys" and "your wrong" for both If you take it down to bog basics, a "contact coil" is nearly almost a "tube" ,, so its Going to get hotter in the middle than the ends , which when you add juice + cooling of juice to the ends + airflow to the center,, your going to be vaporising most of the juice Before it gets to the center, which goes black quicker,, as its hotter, a spaced coil heats up evenly along its length, so goes blacker faster over the Direct part of the airflow first, (Same as a contact) but doesnt have the "hotter center" , as to which am best,, i think it Totally depends on Your juice Your airflow settings Your wattage oh and fancy ass pita "coils" are imho just bollox but take ages to faff n fkabout to make for , fkall flavour increases AT the watts i vape at with the airflow I like and the juices i like +ves for a spaced coil it just works, no faffing with squeezing/stroking , fettling , it just glows evenly from the get go *unless its Ni200 or Ti as you do not ever want to glow those +ves for contact coils, easier to jam in more wick (Cotton) -ves for spaced coils, jamming too much wick in will distort the spaces ,, which doesnt matter really -ves for contact, "faff" of squeezing/stroking/rubbing to get to glow evenly best,, down to you, suck it n see
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2017 1:14:53 GMT
After many attempts at both contact coils for me, I only use rda's now.
I used to use spaced coils in kf style rta's, as they don't gunk up as quickly and the flavour difference is marginal with a smaller chamber.
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Post by grumpy64 on Apr 15, 2017 1:43:17 GMT
It depends on the atty imho, I have some that vape and wick better with a spaced coil and others that perform and wick better with a contact coil.
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Post by taff on Apr 15, 2017 12:38:21 GMT
Yes i suppose it matters what atty you are installing them into...May start a little experiment and try both in the next atty i redo..and see whats better for it.
Thanks folks..
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Post by bear on Apr 17, 2017 9:29:51 GMT
I use spaced coils as they do not gunk up as quickly and last longer also do not need to check for hot spots just wick and go :-)
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Post by feeson on Apr 17, 2017 10:34:45 GMT
I think my coils would count as spaced. I make my coil nice and tight, pulse a good few times then space things out a bit by strumming to get things nice and even.
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Post by possum on Apr 17, 2017 16:29:38 GMT
I always thought that spaced coils allowed more surface area contact with the cotton and more room for more vapor to escape more freely but that's just me. I also think that spaced coils produce way less spitting/popping as the juice is not trapped in a cylinder which a thight coil creates.
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Post by nemesis on May 2, 2017 16:54:36 GMT
I bought a sh*t ton of ss notch coils in a sale on Fasttech so I mostly use those at the moment, flavour is great even at lowish watts, ramp time is almost instant and because I'm a lazy git at the moment it saves me any faffing about and that is fine with me.
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Post by Balders on May 2, 2017 17:55:13 GMT
I bought a sh*t ton of ss notch coils in a sale on Fasttech so I mostly use those at the moment, flavour is great even at lowish watts, ramp time is almost instant and because I'm a lazy git at the moment it saves me any faffing about and that is fine with me. I heard that a lot of people have liked these notched coils but I found the flavour of the juices quite lacking when I used these myself. But this was when they first came out and maybe they have since improved on the design of them.
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Post by taff on May 2, 2017 18:04:48 GMT
never tried a ready built coil yet...but I do have several types here, so may try one soon and see how they go..
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Post by Cyborg on May 2, 2017 21:53:40 GMT
I use tight coils for cotton wicks most of the time but spaced for silice in the Kayfuns although the Kayfun 5 is tight cotton exception
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Post by nemesis on May 2, 2017 23:57:11 GMT
Balders I think the problem with notch coils is down to the fact that the manufacturers rate them for too high a wattage. The ones I have are rated for 40 watts but no matter how you wick them everything tastes like sh*te if you go anywhere near that high, I run them at 20 and have no problems, 25 is OK but anything higher and . Also when you are wicking them I find it is best to have the cotton fill the inside of the coil but still be fairly loose but have more on the ends to pack onto the deck. Basically you want a buffer of cotton that soaks juice from the tank but the looser cotton inside the coils then saturates faster from the buffer than it would if it had all been packed tight (if that makes sense). Sorry if I have not explained that very well, at least it made sense in my head.
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Post by Balders on May 3, 2017 0:05:30 GMT
I might have another shot with these when I do my next order from FT as one thing I did like about them was the quick ram up time, I also only used them in my dripper's but may have a go with using them in a couple of tanks to see how they vape. You haven't got a link to which ones you purchased have you nemesis ?
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Post by nemesis on May 3, 2017 0:09:22 GMT
Sure have Balders link they do different sizes as well but I find this size to be the most useful and unfortunately they are not on sale any longer but still cheaper than from the UK.
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Post by Balders on May 3, 2017 0:12:50 GMT
Sure have Balders link they do different sizes as well but I find this size to be the most useful and unfortunately they are not on sale any longer but still cheaper than from the UK. Thanks for that nemesis sale or not they are still very cheap so it would be silly not to try them out at that price, and you never know I may get to like them yet.
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Post by nemesis on May 3, 2017 0:21:49 GMT
A couple of things I should point out Balders is to be careful how you handle the legs on them as they break really easy and if you dry burn them don't go over 20 watts and only in short bursts with a cool down period or they will literally burn in half. I find keeping them coated in juice and pulsing cleans them up nicely.
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Post by pacman on May 8, 2017 8:31:04 GMT
Think I might try these out nemesis on a triton coil. Cheers mate
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